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    Default The ultimate collection of things not to do or say to an infertile

    Inspired by comments recently made to me:

    NOT TO SAY:

    "I've heard that people say that once you forget about it, you'll fall pregnant"
    *Apparently forgetfulness is the new fertility booster, seeing that my memory is above average, I suppose I'm a hopeless case.*

    "When the time is right, it will happen"
    *So what exactly was wrong with yesterday? And why do victims of rape fall pregnant? Suppose the time was right for them as well?*

    "It will happen when you least expect it, just ask your sister"
    *O yes, falling pregnant the month after you get off the pill is VERY unexpected, and waiting 2 years for your 4th child really compares to my situation of 0 positive results after several ART treatments over a span of 2 years.*

    "Just relax, it will happen"
    *Dude, if I relaxed any more, I would be drooling all over my shirt*

    "I've heard that people who decide to adopt fall pregnant"
    *Well then, let's look for a suitable victim to adopt to serve as miracle fertility treatment, I suppose no sacrifice is too big to achieve the end result of your own biological child*

    NOT TO DO:

    - Do not name your baby after the name mentioned to you by your infertile friend/family member reserved for their baby.
    - Do not randomly quote success stories, we all know about the person who fell pregnant naturally after 11 IVF's, it really does not make us feel better about our situation.

    Seriously! What are people thinking!?

    I'm compiling a best of collection of comments NOT to make when trying to empathise with an infertile.

    Anyone want to add to the collection?


    Mileage | Me 30 | Dh 34 |
    TTC | 2 Yrs 9 Months |
    History | 2 x Clomid | 4 x IUI | IVFx2 | FET x 1 | GIFT#1 (cancelled) | GIFT#2 BFP |
    Dx | PCOS (Actos) | Hypothyroidism (Eltroxin) |
    HSG | Normal |
    BFP | 1 |
    Current Status
    | Beta#1 CD29/15dpo - 640 |
    | Beta#2 CD33/19dpo - 2509 |
    | Beta#3 CD37/23dpo - 8000 |
    | 7 Week u/s - 10/09 - 3 x 150 bpm heartbeats, 10mm Each |
    | 9 Week u/s - 25/09 - Loss of one heartbeat 8w6d, twins on course and growing strong, visible limbs and movement |
    | 12 Week u/s shows possible markers for Downs |
    | 17 Week Fetal Assessment @ Prof. Nicolauo - All normal |
    | C-Section Date: 8/12 April 2010 |
    | Twins born 29 March 2010 @ 35.4 weeks |

    FS | DR.V @ VL |

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    These things take time.
    Really? how long?? why so long for us?? Is time abstract?

    TTC: Since Oct 2005
    Me: 36, DH: 32
    Diagnosis: MF, morphology, count.
    FF, tubal
    IUI May, June, July 08 - Failed
    IVF - Oct 08 - BFN

    Adoption: Our beautiful son April 2009
    Feb 2010 : Lap and hysterscopy, 2 fibroids, stage 1 endo, blocked tubes

    POA: IVF July 2010

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    Those sound all too familiar!

    My one acquintance, who falls pregnant by just looking at her husband, says that I must just "relax" and "have some wine" -"that always works".

    Another one of my favourites is: "It probably isn't meant to be". Like God would put this instinct and longing in me to have a baby and then be evil to not give one to me?
    Wannabe-a-mommy
    Me (27) PCOS, One blocked tube
    DH (28) Sperm - Good count, low morphology (but MUCH better since we are taking Staminogro)
    Married - 6 years
    TTC - Since July 2004 (4 years and counting)
    0 x BPF
    1 x Laporoscopy
    1 x Ovarian Drilling
    3 x Clomid
    1 x IUI - BFP (I know, who would have thought!?)
    FS - Dr. Ramdeo (Care Clinic -Westville)

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    After my 2nd m/c my SIL (extremely freakin fertile) sent me an e-mail detailing how maybe it was my fault, because pregnancy wasn't in God's plan for me at that stage, and I had forgotten to ask God for His Will.

    Also, I got many "at least it happened early" (yippee! For who?), "at least you can get pregnant" (whoop-di-doo: EVERYONE wants 8 week pregnancies) and my personal favorite "there was definitely something wrong with the baby" (I had testing done both times and both babies were fine).

    Please consider naming your collection "101 reasons why I like infertiles more than fertiles".

    xxx

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    Good topic Maritza. Gosh there are so many, let me pick a few and my sarcastic comeback that I wish I had said:

    Geez, kids are really hard work, here look after mine for a while and you will change your mind.
    Thanks buddy, sounds good!

    There are so many homeless, needy children in the world who need parents so why don't you just adopt.
    Hmm sounds SO easy - just adopt you say

    Just be positive - It will happen.
    Oh so my negativity is causing these repeat IVF failures and its all my fault - glad we cleared that up and you say you know for certain this WILL happen, had a chat with God have you?

    Don't you think its a little selfish to spend so much money on infertilty treatment.
    Well I enjoy flushing my money down the loo and am glad I didn't waste it on a nice car/holiday or house like YOU

    And probably the worst - said to me after another IVF failure by a family member.:
    Gosh me and all my friends are pregnant, it must be in the water - maybe you should drink from my glass!!!!
    I still have no response for that and didn't speak to her for months!

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    These all look soooooo familiar!!!

    When my SIL fell pregnant 6 months ago with her second she phoned me and told me she had buyers remorse because she really didn't expect it to happen so quickly after taking out the mirena! (I quietly told her you can't get buyers remorse from falling pregnant only from shopping to much, then I put the phone down)! She just doesn't get it and never will! At our house on Saturday she told me that if she could do it all again she would never have married her DH, just stayed with him and she would never have had children! (My niece is the best thing in the world!) She wants to buy at motorcycle once her little boy is born!!!

    Why do some women become mothers and other don't??? It is like a really bad joke!!!

    xxx
    TTC: 2 3/4 years
    DH 34: 3% Morphology
    Me 32:
    Hypothyroidism (Eltroxin)
    1 x Laparoscopy '07
    2 x Hysteroscopy '07 & '08
    (Removed: Stage 1 endo, 3 polyps, uterine septum)
    3 x IUI - '07 & '08 - BFN
    4 x IVF ICSI - '08 - BFN
    AMH: Sept - 0.39, Jan - 0.33
    FS: Dr Heylen at CFC

    BFP - Jan '09 - spontaneous pregnancy
    Gynae: Dr Barry Rossouw
    William Kilroy Beamish born 22.09.09

    BFP - March '10 - spontaneous pregnancy
    Due Date - 31 Dec '10

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    My all time favorite when commenting on my mc's:

    "At least it happened now and not later!"

    Yes, because there's always a good time to loose a baby!!!
    8th Year TTC/Stopped treatment after - 2 Clinics, 4 fresh IVF's, 1 FET, +8 timed/stimmed cycles, 2 laps, 1 HSG, Hydrosalpinges, Scarring, Septum, Lesions, 7 miscarriages & loads of chemical pregnancies/Adoption Screening - 23rd Nov/Selected by BM!



    Our daughter, Ava Grace was born on Sunday, 13th December! God has moved a mountain!


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    My brother in law (currently going through the longest divorce in history coz he doesn't have the balls to finalize the thing) said to my wife the other day "You should have just ask me and my black girlfriend to make you one!" Nothing racial, but not everybody is prepared to raise a child outside of our culture. He followed that stupid remark with "Why don't you just adopt?" My wife told him that we didn't adopt coz it's quite impossible for caucasian parents to adopt caucasian babies. That shut him up.

    PLEASE - I don't mean this as a racist remark! To each his own. We are just not willing to raise a African baby.

    OMG! You gals mentioning the fat bastard winking & going "Just come to me, I'll help you girls out..." is just SO accurate. First they want to "cure" us, then they wanna knock us up!

    And when we found out that we're pregnant with a very high HCG level, and everyone thought it's gonna be twins, one biatch actually said "Oh, then you can give me one! I have one but don't wanna go through the whole stretchmarks & weight gain thing again!" Yes, you stupid skank - I'm an incubator whose sole purpose on this earth is to spend my life savings so that YOU won't have to go through any discomfort. People sometimes just fark me off.
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    Lesbian couple
    Mommy T (Bio Mommy) = 31 yrs old
    Mommy Nix = 41 yrs old
    Our son, Christopher was born on 1 June 2009 after 6x IUI cycles. He is the most beautiful little boy and gives his mommies endless love and joy.

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    I think that we would all have enough money to fund our treatments if we had R1 for every time people told us to relax!

    We should also buy shares in a wine farm as we have all been told to have a glass of wine at the time as "it will help you relax". I must confess that my tongue got the better of me and I replied that I was afraid I would spill if I had wine during sex. It was worth the tut of dissaproval from my Mother to see the look on her friend's face who had told me this.
    Me 38 years/ DH 42 years
    TTC 3 years
    DH very very low SA
    1 X M/C first trimester
    April 2007 1 x Lap - Ovarian and Dermoid cysts and endo removed
    May 2008 1 x lap - Stage 2 endo, ovaraian cysts and uterine fibroid removed as well as most of 1 ovary due to damage
    ICSI # 1 July/Aug 2008 = BFN
    ICSI # 2 Oct 2008 = BFP but then a loss
    ICSI # 3 Dec 2008 = no fertilisation
    ICSI # 4 Mar 2009 = BFP

    1st Beta 240
    2nd Beta 620
    3rd Beta 1821

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    Default I hate it wen. . . .

    I hate wen i visit relatives and pick up a baby 2 play with and a 'shame i feel so sorry 4 u' look is accompanied with dont worry u wil b next. And the worst was wen n cousin asked me 'so have u given up trying 2 have a baby' in front of my entire family. I hate that some people with kids dont appreciate them and always say'u take them' i just cant take it nymre. I hate wen people get depressed wen they concieve and say y? Wen every ounce of me wants 2 shake them? I mostly hate the days wen if is a dark and gloomy cloud hanging over, unleashing this bitter and desperate part of me.
    Age: 30years
    DH: 30years
    History:-ttc 8 years
    2 x Laps
    6 x Clomid
    3 x AI
    Stage IV Endo
    DH: Poor Count & Morphology
    ICSI Aug 2008 -BFN. . . Adoption process began jan 2009. Waiting and praying

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